Reserved Seating

[EchoVictorOscar]

I've been genuinely surprised by this latest bit of news. Pax can now pre-book seats 1ABC, 2ABCDEF, 16 and 17 ABCDEF on DUB-LGW and DUB-AGP on a trial basis, starting May 16th. The service costs €10/£10 per pax, per flight.

http://www.ryanair.com/ie/news/ryanair-to-trial-reserved-seating

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I eat my words to the previous comment made another member on here.

Inititially I thought the idea wouldn't have crossed Ryanair's mind due to the effect it would have on their turnaround times.
But since it applies to just some of the more pupular seating options, it might apply to all rows without the need to increase the turnaround time.

Since most ryanair flghts operate at less than 100% capacity, it seems a good idea to introduce this new charge.
And if the flight does operate at 100% capacity without any passenger wishing to reserve any of the seats, then it will probably be offered as free to those last customers.

I can see some fools who would be happy to spend 10 EUR (dutch people or those with large legs, those same fools who purchase priority boarding who would be happy to buy into the idea. After all it will be much better than priority boarding for single passengers.
Those that reserve seating will be the last of the plane in an emergency, and will probably be the ones who will close the overwing exit doors afterwards to teach those who hadn't a lesson.



The current 25 minute turnaround increases the revenue of the airline since it reduces the time at the gate and allows the aircraft to fly more sectors.
Reserving seating is known to affect boarding time, which is why easyjet and southwest airlines never introduced the idea.

If ryanair can make some of the money lossed at spending time at the gate (extending the departure slot and maximising it's time in the air) through assigned seating, then they well change their mind and roll it as standard across the fleet.

[EchoVictorOscar]

And if the flight does operate at 100% capacity without any passenger wishing to reserve any of the seats, then it will probably be offered as free to those last customers.

I can see some fools who would be happy to spend 10 EUR (dutch people or those with large legs, those same fools who purchase priority boarding who would be happy to buy into the idea. After all it will be much better than priority boarding for single passengers.
Those that reserve seating will be the last of the plane in an emergency, and will probably be the ones who will close the overwing exit doors afterwards to teach those who hadn't a lesson.

You can only purchase reserved seating at the time of booking. You cannot buy it on the day of the flight. If the seats are not reserved, then any pax who wants to sit there, can.

I don't know what you're getting at regarding the 'dutch people' being fools remark, but you should be very careful what you say as it's borderline racist.

You can only reserve seats at 1ABC, row 2 and row 16&17 - these rows are closest to the emergency exits, so these pax would be among the first off the aircraft. Also, why would anyone close the overwing exits?

[atoutprix]

For me, I don't much like these places.
On all those rows, at least for take-off and landing, you are not allowed to keep your hand bagage near you or under the seat in front, you have to put it in the overhead bins.
Rows 16 and 17 are just above the wings, you don't see anything but that wing when in flight.
The only advantage of these rows is that they have more legroom, and it's valuable for those who are a bit above average height.

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And if the flight does operate at 100% capacity without any passenger wishing to reserve any of the seats, then it will probably be offered as free to those last customers.

I can see some fools who would be happy to spend 10 EUR (dutch people or those with large legs, those same fools who purchase priority boarding who would be happy to buy into the idea. After all it will be much better than priority boarding for single passengers.
Those that reserve seating will be the last of the plane in an emergency, and will probably be the ones who will close the overwing exit doors afterwards to teach those who hadn't a lesson.

You can only purchase reserved seating at the time of booking. You cannot buy it on the day of the flight. If the seats are not reserved, then any pax who wants to sit there, can.

I don't know what you're getting at regarding the 'dutch people' being fools remark, but you should be very careful what you say as it's borderline racist.

You can only reserve seats at 1ABC, row 2 and row 16&17 - these rows are closest to the emergency exits, so these pax would be among the first off the aircraft. Also, why would anyone close the overwing exits?

I suggest you read my post a little moe carefully.

I didn't mention anything about puchasing reserve seating on the day, it was a scenario that ran through my head of well 'what would happen if no one purchase any of the reserved seats on a fully booked secto'?
Then it becomes a free for all.

And in the dutch remark, those same fools applied to all passenges who choose to purchase priority boarding, not just those with large legs.

I am very aware of how ryanair operates, used to work with them as flight crew at NYO and on average fly with them 13 times a year as pax.




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[Skifly]

Will there be some kind of sign at those seats, so that other passengers can see if the seats are reserved or not?

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Will there be some kind of sign at those seats, so that other passengers can see if the seats are reserved or not?

Maybe, but there will obviously be some passengers who will ignore this and sit there regardless of anyone. So they will probably block off those rows by retacting and fixing the tray table and then releasing them to those with resevation on their boarding pass.

[atoutprix]

More infos about those reserved seats :

http://www.ryanair.com/en/terms-and-conditions

RESERVED SEATING
Rows 2 and *emergency exit rows 1, 16, 17 are available for reserved seating purchase on routes to/from Dublin-Malaga and Dublin-Gatwick. Priority boarding is included in the reserved seating fee and you are requested to board first with priority passengers. Passengers with reduced mobility, blind/visual impairment or special assistance requirements**or person under the age of 16 years are not permitted to sit in emergency exit rows.

•To avail of an *emergency exit row seat you must be:
◦16 years of age or older
◦Willing and able to help in the event of an emergency
◦Not traveling with an infant
◦Not using a seat belt extender (which could get tangled in an emergency)
No refunds will be available should you fail to meet these requirements and are unable to sit in your reserved seat. Customers who have purchased reserved seating and wish to change their flight dates/route must call our reservation centre for their request to be facilitated (subject to availability).

Reserved seating on the above routes can be purchased online at the rate of £10/€10 or via reservation centre at the rate of £10/€10. Reserved Seats are not available for purchase at the airport.

**Passengers with reduced mobility, blind/visual impairment or special assistance requirements, who have pre-advised their condition will be boarded, with a travelling companion, after general boarding has been completed and seats will be reserved onboard. Reduced mobility passengers will embark and disembark primarily at the rear of the aircraft to occupy reserved seats and on occasion via the front of the aircraft. Safety regulations prohibit any passenger with special needs, reduced mobility or vision impairment from being seated at emergency exit seats.

[Skifly]

Will there be some kind of sign at those seats, so that other passengers can see if the seats are reserved or not?

Maybe, but there will obviously be some passengers who will ignore this and sit there regardless of anyone. So they will probably block off those rows by retacting and fixing the tray table and then releasing them to those with resevation on their boarding pass.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to have a notice on the boardingcards? I guess there will be a new "box" on the boardingcards for seat reservation. And for those passengers that haven't pre-booked a specific seat, it would bi ideal to have a text like "Free seating (except for rows 1, 2, 16 and 17 wich are reserved for passengers with pre-booked seat reservation)"

[bateryan]

Wizz Air, which is mainly operating in and from Central Europa have this option already many years, also for these seats with extra legroom, and with the same restrictions as now specified by Ryanair. Their solution is really simple. You can reserve a seat with extra legroom for a small amount. At check-in a coloured sticker will be placed on your boarding ticket (on-line reservation could have a big red(?) dot being printed on the boarding document). The seats in the airplane have a sign on the headrest 'reserved'. Next to these seats a FA is stationed and sees to it that only people with the reservation occupy this places.
This takes no extra time in the boarding proces.

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Wizz Air, which is mainly operating in and from Central Europa have this option already many years, also for these seats with extra legroom, and with the same restrictions as now specified by Ryanair. Their solution is really simple. You can reserve a seat with extra legroom for a small amount. At check-in a coloured sticker will be placed on your boarding ticket (on-line reservation could have a big red(?) dot being printed on the boarding document). The seats in the airplane have a sign on the headrest 'reserved'. Next to these seats a FA is stationed and sees to it that only people with the reservation occupy this places.
This takes no extra time in the boarding proces.

There will be restrictions imposed on who should occupy the emergency overwing exit rows, I wonder how ryanair will overcome this?
While it is nice to have that extra legrrom, there are a lot of responsibilites for those who occupy those seats, they are essentially Able Body Passengers and are responsible for assisting in evacuation.

[Ryanairflyer]

I eat my words to the previous comment made another member on here.

Inititially I thought the idea wouldn't have crossed Ryanair's mind due to the effect it would have on their turnaround times.
But since it applies to just some of the more pupular seating options, it might apply to all rows without the need to increase the turnaround time.

Since most ryanair flghts operate at less than 100% capacity, it seems a good idea to introduce this new charge.
And if the flight does operate at 100% capacity without any passenger wishing to reserve any of the seats, then it will probably be offered as free to those last customers.

I can see some fools who would be happy to spend 10 EUR (dutch people or those with large legs, those same fools who purchase priority boarding who would be happy to buy into the idea. After all it will be much better than priority boarding for single passengers.
Those that reserve seating will be the last of the plane in an emergency, and will probably be the ones who will close the overwing exit doors afterwards to teach those who hadn't a lesson.



The current 25 minute turnaround increases the revenue of the airline since it reduces the time at the gate and allows the aircraft to fly more sectors.
Reserving seating is known to affect boarding time, which is why easyjet and southwest airlines never introduced the idea.

If ryanair can make some of the money lossed at spending time at the gate (extending the departure slot and maximising it's time in the air) through assigned seating, then they well change their mind and roll it as standard across the fleet.

Hmmm could you have worded this anymore offensive than it sounds.... What you have written is in my opinion very offensive to a certain race and passengers with long legs.. Fools - they are not.

This will be edited/dealt with in due course.

[Ryanairflyer]

£10 for a single trip is alot IMO, price them the same as priority boarding Ryanair..Then I may re-consider..
But a big yes to reserved seating from me..(I have not really had the need to use priority boarding myself) reserved seating if it is applied properly will be a massive adddition to passengers.

this made me chuckle

Reserved Seating Fee – Available on routes to/from Dublin-Gatwick and Dublin-Malaga !! (includes priority boarding) !!
so is a reserved seat really £6 but you must purchase priority boarding for an extra £4 to qualify for a reserved seat total £10? .

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I eat my words to the previous comment made another member on here.

Inititially I thought the idea wouldn't have crossed Ryanair's mind due to the effect it would have on their turnaround times.
But since it applies to just some of the more pupular seating options, it might apply to all rows without the need to increase the turnaround time.

Since most ryanair flghts operate at less than 100% capacity, it seems a good idea to introduce this new charge.
And if the flight does operate at 100% capacity without any passenger wishing to reserve any of the seats, then it will probably be offered as free to those last customers.

I can see some fools who would be happy to spend 10 EUR (dutch people or those with large legs, those same fools who purchase priority boarding who would be happy to buy into the idea. After all it will be much better than priority boarding for single passengers.
Those that reserve seating will be the last of the plane in an emergency, and will probably be the ones who will close the overwing exit doors afterwards to teach those who hadn't a lesson.



The current 25 minute turnaround increases the revenue of the airline since it reduces the time at the gate and allows the aircraft to fly more sectors.
Reserving seating is known to affect boarding time, which is why easyjet and southwest airlines never introduced the idea.

If ryanair can make some of the money lossed at spending time at the gate (extending the departure slot and maximising it's time in the air) through assigned seating, then they well change their mind and roll it as standard across the fleet.

Hmmm could you have worded this anymore offensive than it sounds.... What you have written is in my opinion very offensive to a certain race and passengers with long legs.. Fools - they are not.

This will be edited/dealt with in due course.

I wasn't implying dutch people as fools, rather those who purchase priority boarding. It was worded incorrectly and was worded twice, but I dont regard dutch people as fools!!!!!
I'm unable to edit this now, but I do wish that people would stop accusing me of intentiontally offending dutch people, it is getting ridiculous.

If anything priority boarding was designed to allow those with large to occupy those seats.

The

[atoutprix]

http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/ryanair-may-charge-euro10-for-reserved-seats-2291990.html


the airline said trials of a €10 "book-a-seat" service between Dublin and Gatwick and Dublin and Malaga launched last month had proved to be far more successful than expected.

Caroline Green, Ryanair's director of customer service, said an extension of the scheme would take place on another route this summer and a decision on whether to extend the service to all 165 destinations the company flies to was likely to be taken in September.