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Post by Ryanflyer13 on Sat 4 Jan 2014 - 11:32

because someone earlier today posted some rumour about antwerp airport I would like to ask the open question : Is it allowed to land a 737-800 on a 1500 meter runway?
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Post by HollandRyanair on Sat 4 Jan 2014 - 12:35

Ryanflyer13 wrote:because someone earlier today posted some rumour about antwerp airport I would like to ask the open question : Is it allowed to land a 737-800 on a 1500 meter runway?

Don't know if it's allowed, but it's absolutely no option for Ryanair. Take Groningen Airport Eelde as an example. Ryanair wouldn't fly there until a runway extension was made. Groningen had a 1800 meter runway at that time and when the announcement of the extension was made, Ryanair started flying to Marseille, Bergamo and Palma. Those flights had to be operated with blocked rows due to weight restrictions. A fully loaded 737-800 could not take-off from Groningen with enough fuel to make it to Palma. With the new 2500m runway at Groningen every destination within Europe can be reached.

So, with the current fleet shortage, there is no way that Ryanair will block rows to fly from Antwerp since that runway is 300m shorter than Groningen's initial length. Besides that, Antwerp is a 1hr drive to Eindhoven Airport, where a lot of destinations are being offered. I don't see any chance for Antwerp.
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Post by gunk67 on Sun 5 Jan 2014 - 17:10

But is is ower minister of transport ho said that"The biggest airplane that is authorised to land at antwerp airport is a boeiing 737.
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Post by atoutprix on Mon 6 Jan 2014 - 15:40

A Boeing 737 can certainly land and at Antwerp - Sabena used to do it.
But with how many passengers can a 737-800 take off, and with how much fuel ?
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Post by Ryanairflyer on Wed 8 Jan 2014 - 4:35

Simples .. If it is possible it is .. if not it will not happen... I am no mathematical genius and do not want be... Smile

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Post by gunk67 on Wed 8 Jan 2014 - 22:20

Well today director off the airport said that tals are still gowing on with 3 airline companys.And again he said one off them is a low budget airliner.But he could not say the names off those 3.He promised that on the 15 january he will give a press meeting where he will say the name off the company.I will keep you all informed.
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Post by Ryanflyer13 on Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 19:24

it is now 20 january, any news on Antwerp airport? regards
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Post by gunk67 on Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 17:02

No sorry no news at all.I am trying to find any news on the IT but no results .If there is any news,i let you know. best regards.
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Post by gunk67 on Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 2:48

Atlast some news about the Antwerp airport,but i am afraid that it is not what i believed it would be.The low budget company Flybe is starting to use the airport for flights to London Southend,so no ryanair sorry.But the director of the airport said talks are still going on with other low budget company's but again he did not wanted to tell any names to the press.But you never know.
I will keep you all informed.
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Post by gunk67 on Fri 5 Sep 2014 - 20:55

Well,something is happening at the antwerp airport now with the longer runway.Jetairfly is due to start from april on with flights to  Mejorca and the mainland of spain and others in the future from antwerp airport.And the director of antwerp airport said that talks or going on with other airliners! Atlast maybe with Ryanair or easyjet?


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Post by gunk67 on Sat 13 Feb 2016 - 3:04

Hello,after a long time i have some news about the antwerp airport and Ryanair.I can confirm that mister O'Leary has been seen steppin out of his small jet just a few weeks ago at the antwerp airport and that he had a meeting with director of the airport.This has been confirmed by 2 people who works there.And yesterday the CEO of the airport has said that the last talks are going on with a new company,but he did not mention(again)the name.
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Post by RyanairBristol on Sun 14 Feb 2016 - 18:31

I have a B737 landing distance calculator on my tablet and I put in some of the statistics.
MAX LANDING WEIGHT AROUND 60T STOPPING DISTANCE WITH AUTOBREAK 3 AND BREAKING ACTION POOR AT FLAPS 40 WITH A  DELTA VREF OF 135KT AND  ANTWERPEN RUNWAY GRADIENT OF -0.02% IS 2282 M with good breaking action you get a stopping distance of 1440M
WITH AN AVERAGE WEIGHT OF 50T AND ALL THE ABOVE PARAMETERS YOU GET A STOPPING DISTANCE OF 1978M
AT A WEIGHT OF 40T YOU WOULD MAKE IT UNDER 1500M so you could only have 10T of payload including a small amount of fuel. You would probably be only to take 105 passangers. (Around this number do not quote me on this I am not 100% sure)
Therefore Antwerp is for sure a no-go area for FR. It would shock me if they did
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Post by Ryanair Ltd. on Mon 22 Feb 2016 - 22:57

Do they really use AUTOBREAK 3? I thought it was 1-2. I've tried it on FSX and on 2500m runways it's far enough.

B738
Maximum Taxi Weight 70,760 KG
Maximum Takeoff Weight 70,533 KG
Maximum Landing Weight 65,317 KG
Maximum Zero Fuel Weight 61,688 KG


The 737-800 physically could land ok, but I believe that even with a max stopping distance of 1440M (+60TonnesMLW) there would still need to be an extra km or so.
Coming back to Groningen's 2,500 m runway.
Baraja's longest 18R/36L is about 4300m.
Does anyone know current flights/airlines into ANR?
From a website:
13. Boeing 737-800 Minimun R.Length: 6,791 ft (2,070 m)
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Post by gunk67 on Tue 23 Feb 2016 - 2:12

The only airline with jetengines using antwerp airport is Jetair,using the Embraer-jet E190.In the past at antwerp,DHL landed with a boeing 757(only needed 1550M to get to a stop,but needed full breaks!)And a airline called Jet Time with a boeing 737-300 has used this airport for about 1 year.And now the airline company called VLM wich i using propeller engine plains has said that in this year it will hire 2 Sukhoi superjet 100 LR plains to be used at the antwerp airport!
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Post by RyanairBristol on Thu 25 Feb 2016 - 20:25

Ryanair Ltd. wrote:Do they really use AUTOBREAK 3? I thought it was 1-2. I've tried it on FSX and on 2500m runways it's far enough.

B738
Maximum Taxi Weight 70,760 KG
Maximum Takeoff Weight  70,533 KG
Maximum Landing Weight 65,317 KG
Maximum Zero Fuel Weight  61,688 KG


The 737-800 physically could land ok, but I believe that even with a max stopping distance of 1440M (+60TonnesMLW) there would still need to be an extra km or so.
Coming back to Groningen's 2,500 m runway.
Baraja's longest 18R/36L is about 4300m.
Does anyone know current flights/airlines into ANR?
From a website:
13. Boeing 737-800 Minimun R.Length: 6,791 ft (2,070 m)
Hi
They tend to use autobrake 1-2 but on shorter runways or where they may want to exit the runway earlier they will use autobreak 3 Also maybe if the conditions are poor depending on the length. I was just using to show in the worst case event they could not land at Antwerp. That is why the numbers were bigger as I used a wet runway surface. Having said that I am not that sure how credible this app is.
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Post by RyanAdmin on Sun 3 Apr 2016 - 12:58

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